Saturday, January 24, 2015

Flea market? Archdiocese of Chicago recycles old threadbare Protestant social gospel, and much, much more

In "A Listening Church," a Commoneweal interview with Chicago Archbishop Kaput, published on January 22, 2015, we get an opportunity to see Kaput up close and personal.
On how to deal with the overall decline of the Church in the USA:

... The way to do it is not by saying, “You’re not going to Mass and so there’s a problem.” Rather, we can say, “We have an opportunity to better society and to better the common good. We work for the poor. Come and work for the poor with us.”

On the 2014 Synod:

I think the media reported what actually took place. What really took place at the synod was that a majority of the bishops voted for all the proposals that were there in the final summary document.... It’s true that three of the paragraphs [about divorce and gay people] did not get two-thirds majority support, but they got more than a majority. That’s what’s new. That’s the story.

Promoting Kasperite theology and the theology of the 2014 Synod "Relatio" in Chicago:

I have met with my archdiocesan women’s council, the presbyteral council leadership, and my archdiocesan pastoral council. I gave them the relatio of the synod [the summary document] and asked them to propose a way in which there can be an effective—not necessarily widespread—consultation with their various constituencies ....

What I did last year in Spokane I want to do here too. We’re going to have a day-long presentation for priests on two things: First, what are the canonical issues here? A good canonist will tell you that there are multiple ways in which we can be sensitive to our people’s needs. Second, we have to unpack this notion of the theology of the family. Cardinal Walter Kasper gave a talk about this to the cardinals last year, which has been published as a book called The Gospel of the Family. In Spokane, I gave all my priests a copy. Then I brought in a priest who knows Cardinal Kasper’s theology quite well, Msgr. John Strynkowski, and he helped them understand what Kasper is saying.

And on doctrine:

[The Church's doctrinal tradition] is a living tradition not because of anything we say, but because the risen Christ is always doing something new in the life of the church. In Pope Francis’s Evangelii gaudium, there is a whole section in which he talks about the idea that Christ is always doing something new in the lives of his people as he accompanies them.

The link to the above article was sent to me by Guy Noir, who said in his own remarks:
You have to admit, he is much easier to understand than Francis! Maybe we can call it Concupichscence? [Or, I would add, Kaputscence.]

Note that now we will be getting lectures on Kasper's Theology of Mercy. Attach these to Theology of the Body and you have the key ideas of modern Catholicism: 1) a strong affirmation of pre-emptive forgiveness and a retreat from non-contradicting doctrine or hard sayings found in Scripture, and 2) a strong pre-emptive affirmation of sex and a retreat from a prohibitive morality. Someone's Jesus is certainly doing something new. But when you're essentially handing out loan forgiveness, condoms, and smiles, forgive me if I can't tell if this is a Jesus seminar or a Jackson Browne concert.

Kasperite Indoctrination for the Archdiocese of Chicago? Cupich on the 2014 Synod: "the media reported what actually took place" (Rorate Caeli, January 23, 2015).
[Hat tip to Rorate Caeli and G.N.]


Anonymous said...

Pass me another doobie, man. This is groovy stuff.

Right out of the sixties! How pathetic.


I just danced to a different drummer at the time. His name was Jerry Allison who played with the Chrickets and Buddy Holly. That music kept me free from the drugs and hippie immersion that was ubiquitous in those days. It, likely, protected the faith that was given to me as a kid.

The men in charge of the Catholic Church are more or less dysfuntional idiots who deserve no respect, in spite of their positions. We should cease giving to the catholic Church but telling them, exactly why. Then demanding massive changes or continuing to starve the Catholic Church of its life blood....$$$$.

My two cents.


Raider Fan said...

After the imposition of Communion for adulterers, and relaxing strictures against sodomites comes dispensing communion to protestant heretics who, after all, are part of the Body of Christ.

At least that is what we are being told.

Saint Vincent of Lerins, long ago, prepared real men for such a time in the church when he said such trials are God's way of testing whether or not we love Him; and, he told us how to respond to these noxious novelties:

Our Pope and our Cross can not be stopped by mortal man but any man who retains morality must resist his novelties and, yes, continue to have fun living his life and keeping alive in his domestic church the Faith once delivered.

O, and thank God not only for this trial which gives us an opportunity to prove our love for Him, but thank Him for having so long ago raised up a Saint like Vincent to teach us how to act like real men during a time when epicene ecclesiastics have ascended to authority.

Ralph Roister-Doister said...

Kaput is right

Pertinacious Papist said...


I agree that Kaput was probably right about the "relatio."

Ralph Roister-Doister said...

PP, I agree with you that Ab Cupich, or "Kaput," his more revealling satirical nickname, is right about the relatio. Trads and genuine conservatives (as opposed to "neo-") tend to fall all over themselves in triumphalist self-congratulatory glory when they actually win something, instead of realizing that they ought to steel themselves for the next one, which will be worse. As the awful Cupich makes crystal clear, the majority of synodocrats are clearly with him. And the bad guys have ten months to neutralize the opposition, as Bergoglio has already done with Ab Burke. The synod of last October represents a slight misstep by Kasper's and Bergoglio's flunkeys. Next time there will be no loose ends.

Meanwhile, what are the good guys doing? Anything? Those guys, surprised first by the sheer number of progressives at the synod, and then surprised by their own modest success in temporarily derailing them, don't exactly remind me of the 300 Spartans.

Anonymous said...

Ha! Yeah.. Because those that are too self absorbed to give one hour on Sunday to the Lord will surely drop everything to "serve the poor".

Charles said...


Why do these papal apologists, like Dave Armstrong and Mark Shea, think it will demoralize the faithful to hear the least whisper of criticism of Pope Francis's irresponsible gestures and sound bites making their viral rounds in the media?

Whenever I read your comments, I find, much to the contrary, that I am consoled by the realization that I am not going mad, that I am not alone in feeling troubled, and that one can be an intelligent and faithful Catholic without calling having to call a pile of mule droppings a plate of cream puffs.

Hasn't the Pope explicitly invited criticism? Why then would it not be disobedient NOT to make our disquiet known to him?

Ralph Roister-Doister said...

I don't know the answer to your question but I suspect that the fact that they are writing for money might have some small thing to do with the predictability of what they write.

I think it is a bit naive to believe that the pope is yearning for criticism from "self-absorbed promethean neo-pelagians" like ourselves. This pope has declared himself -- there can be no mystery about him that is not self-induced. He is the most progressive and ideological leader the Church has ever had. His only possible competition in that respect is that of Montini, whom Francis is committed to see canonized. The fix is in there too: the hurried assembly of an alternative pantheon of modernist saints.

All in all, Bergoglio's boll weevil papacy is a blight to be suffered (listen to the old Brook Benton song and you will understand (:.D)).

The most heartening thing for me is the development of a tiny but still powerful conservative-traditional Catholic media, such as Voris and the Remnant, even if I may not agree with them on this or that issue. Chris Ferrara is for me probably the most reliable of traditionalist voices (which is not to say that I am in lockstep with him every single time he opens his mouth). It may be cynical to say it, but we live in a world where perception is reality, and without such a media, our reality is reduced to other people's perceptions. And those other people don't like us.

Charles said...

Well put, Ralph. Good words.