Sunday, January 02, 2011

Our brilliant dismal education results


[Hat tip to E.E.]


Anonymous said...

He should have asked, "Which religion reveres Jesus as a prophet and honors His Virgin Mother? Which religion condemns Jesus as a conman, now spending eternity boiling in excrement, while claiming his mother got pregant by a Roman soldier?"

Anonymous said...

Or, as another alternative, he could have asked, "Which religion honors Jesus as Isa ibn Maryam (Jesus, son of Mary, the sister of Moses), and slays his followers as infidels."

c matt said...

The Hummus/Hamas question was bit close given the interviewer's pronunciation of it. However, the general lack of knowledge of college students is really nothing new.

Anonymous said...

For a religion that slays Christ's followers as infidels, those followers certainly seemed to have been treated far better under under the yoke of dhimmitude pre-1948. How else to explain all those ancient Christian communities in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Palestine and Iraq? It makes you wonder why so many purported followers of Christ betray such slavish devotion to that sh*tty little country halfway around the world. By the way, whatever became of that 40 percent of the Holy Land that counted itself Christian? Did Christian (sic) Zionists have anything to do with their displacement? "See how these Christians love each other!"

Anonymous said...


First, if you have such a rosy picture of Islamic tolerance before 1948 (founding of Israel), you need to get beyond the revisionist Islam literature of the last 60 years and read something that gives you an accurate understanding of what happened before 1948, like Bat Ye'Or's books, The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam (1985), The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam: From Jihad to Dhimmitude: Seventh-Twentieth Century (1996), and Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide (2001), or Serge Trifkovic's book, The Sword of the Prophet: History, Theology, Impact on the World (2002), or Thomas Madden, The Real History of the Crusades (2002).

Also, you neatly sidestepped my reference to the Qur'an's reference to Mary (or Maryam), the mother of Jesus, as the same person as Miriam, the sister of Aaron and Moses.

With "facts" like these, don't you ever wonder whether you're foundations are a bit less than shaky? Not to mention the ("Satanic") Qur'anic verses in which Muhammad permits prayers of intercession to be made to three pagan Meccan goddesses: Allat, al-Uz­zá, and Manat -- a detail Islamic scholars have a vested interest in covering up, since it undermines Muhammad's credibility and the Muslim claim that Mu­ham­mad is the "Promised Comforter" -- who, in the New Testament at least, is the Holy Spirit promised to "lead you into all truth" (Jn. 16:13), not error. Which is a very strange claim indeed when the Hadith clearly states that the angel Gabriel is the Holy Spirit, a claim reinforced by the Yusuf Ali commentary on the Qur'an.

But I do love Hummus and enjoy my Muslim friends.

Anonymous said...

I hardly think I painted a "rosy" picture of Islam. I know about Poitiers, Vienna and Lepanto. I've read Trifkovic's book.

I'd say "you're" foundations are beyond shaky with respect to the damage wrought by that "special relationship" with Israel. It may well be that Americans and Christians will invariably find themselves in the crosshairs of the vile Mohammedans. But America's one-sided support for the Zionist state has done nothing but create and incite extremists in their camp.

How many Christians lived in Iraq before the U.S. launched its invasion and occupation of that poor country? How many live there now? Gee, you think there's a connection?

You got me on the Koran's identification of Mary as the sister of Moses, though. That one's news to me. But I've always thought of the Muslims as a flaky unitarian cult. As opposed to the post-Temple Jews.

Anonymous said...

Here are a couple of additional questions Schiff might have posed in the interests of balance:

1) Which Mideast democracy, recipient of untold billions in U.S. military and financial assistance, banned *The Passion of the Christ*?

2) Which democracies uphold their citizens' freedom to mock the miracles of Christ and draw unflattering caricatures of Mohammed, while imprisoning those who dare to question any aspect of the orthodox Holocaust account? Hint: many of these democracies once made up what we now quaintly refer to as Christendom.

3) Which democracy bombs and blockades Islamic nations, overthrows their leaders (even those democratically elected--q.v., Iran in 1953), and otherwise meddles incessantly in their affairs, while claiming any blowback it suffers (q.v., 9/11)stems from those nations' extremist elements, who "hate us for our freedom"?

Christopher said...

This is probably more than the anonymous commentator deserves, but see my extended reply.