Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Black Pres. of S.T.A.N.D. at National Press Club: "time for black community to come out of the Dem. party"

Fr. Z. comments:
"If only our own bishops would speak with this clarity and righteous anger.

"Watch and learn.

"Note his explanation of how insulting to black people it is to claim that denial of the 'right' for homosexuals to “marry” is like the 20th century racial civil rights movement."


11 comments:








Ralph Roister-Doister

said...

I guess after decades of hearing black huckster-preachers bellowing about how "insulted" they are about everything that non-black people do, I am strangely unmoved by the perfectly sane remarks of this "bishop." I have no confidence that American blacks will ever accept the responsibility of freedom, which is to stand on one's own two feet and make one's own way. Individual black men and women have, of course, and will, and God bless them every one. But as a sociological group, or a voting bloc, blacks still cling to the dependencies of plantation days like infants to their mother's milk. Gimme my government cheese, gimme my Obamaphone, tuck me into bed at night on the one hand, and on the other accept all of my behaviors, however outrageous or irresponsible, because I am FREE now.

That is the true legacy of civil rights. It is curious to hear blacks blame homosexuals for edging up to the same vile trough from which they have partaken so greedily.

It is also ridiculous for a racial group with unconscionable levels of indiscriminate sex, illegitimate births, and single parenting to claim righteous indignation over the decline of traditional marriage.

If the good bishop is indeed sincere in his remarks, and not a cynical confidence man like Rev Jackson, Rev Sharpton, and host of others, then he is spitting into a very strong wind indeed. Fr Z can applaud him for his courage. For myself, I will wait and see what he is saying five or ten years from now.





Anonymous

said...

there was also a time when there was no debate about slavery, reverend





Anonymous

said...

being black is "an indelible outward characteristic" -- not always -- remember "The Human Stain" and the concept of "passing"...





Steve "scotju" Dalton

said...

The blacks will never listen to this Jackson. As long as they are getting free stuff (like EBT cards) minority set asides, preferred hiring, etc. why would they leave the Democrats?! Unless the money spigot is turned off, that isn't going to happen.





Anonymous Bosch

said...

The key to interpreting your comments, Ralph, is the distinction you draw between individual black Americans and the American black community as a whole. Unlike the mainstream leftist paparazzi which now seem to serve as the mouthpiece of the liberal establishment, I am sadly afraid you may be right.





Anonymous Bosch

said...

Well, "scotju," as individuals and aggregates within the community of blacks as a whole, there will be handfuls who will resonate to this minority message. Where I live there is a black radio station on which is aired a program every Sunday afternoon hosted by a politically conservative black Christian man, which reaches a wide audience, even if the views expressed are not those of the prevailing majority on the national dole.





Steve "scotju" Dalton

said...

AB, I'm aware that there are a handful of blacks that will teach their fellow blacks to be responsible. Jesse Lee Peterson of BOND and the author of "Scam" a book that goes into detail about the spiritual and moral bankruptcy of the black community is one of them. The only problem is that the majority of the blacks won't listen to men like Peterson. They prefer to listen to con men like Jesse and Al who preach the white man owes it to them. Men like Peterson are visiously attacked by the Jesse's and Al's as Uncle Tom's and house n---ers. As a result, they don't get a fair hearing among their own people. Ironically, it is white people like us who will give them a fair hearing. But sadly, the people who really need to hear the message have shut their ears to it. Like R R-D says, blacks as a group want to cling to the dependencies of the plantation days, and expect s to take care of their needs.





Anonymous Bosch

said...

Too true, "scotju." Sad, but true. En masse, the African American community will vote for Obama, because they think that is voting in their self-interest. And Obama is counting on that. He may be an idiot when it comes to running the country, but he's studied Saul Alinsky and his ideologue sources on how to foment radical change. The country is sufficiently far gone that he can count on doing a good job of it.





Robert Allen

said...

RR-D et al:

I hope to God that you are not suggesting that everything was copacetic for African Americans prior to the Civil Rights Movement, that that entire enterprise was nothing but an approximate manifestation of their "plantation" mentality. I further hope you are not equating demanding that the government protect our rights, which are CONSTANTLY being violated by the plutocrats who run this country, with the unwillingness "to stand on one's own feet and make one's own way." There is too much rugged individualism behind your remarks to suit my fancy: let's leave such notions to the Protestants.





Anonymous Bosch

said...

Robert,

I appreciate your concern. But I don't think it follows necessarily from what was said by Ralph or me that we suppose the pre-Civil Rights era was "copacetic" for blacks.

At the same time, the official ending of "segregation" means neither than racial discrimination has ended or that the "Great Society" social welfare programs since the Johnson administration have succeeded in empowering the black community to avoid digging itself deeper into a pit of dependence and pathological self-entitlement. As any jobless black if he's better off today than he was five years ago. If they're informed about black poverty and unemployment statistics and honest about it, they'll tell you no. If they tell you yes, it's because they're getting more services for free, which is no help to them in the long run. Get free fish vs. learn to fish.





Steve "scotju" Dalton

said...

Robert, I can only speak for myself, but the remarks I'll make are based on my own personal experiences and wide reading.
Jesse Lee Peterson book "Scam" have these observations about black community life. "A church and a liquor store on every corner." When I lived in Dallas, Texas many years ago, after being laid off from my job at Caterpillar, this is what I saw in the neighborhood I lived in. Many years later, on a Sunday morning, I dropped a white acquaintance off at a black church in the Chicago area. In the same area, I saw a crowd of maybe 100 blacks outside a yet unopened liquor store, waiting to get inside. "Sunday morning coming down."
Peterson also said,"If the white man was to disappear from America overnight, the blacks couldn't hold it together". A white, Baptist minister of my acquaintance told me that "that wherever the black man goes, he creates slums." Now, you will say ,"that's racist!" But, he was told that by a black Jamaican Baptist minister. Indeed, when you look at formally white areas that have been taken over by blacks, that is exactly what you will see time after time. And when spanking new housing projects are created in black neighborhood, they quickly become slums.
The popular black leaders are basically race hustlers. Peterson gives plenty of evidence in "Scam" about Jesse, Al, And Louie being shuck and jive con artists. Ken Timmerman's "Shakedown" zeros in on the shady life and activities of Jesse Jackson with devastating results. Even Martin Luther King was a race hustler, but because he's so sainted now, it's considered blasphemy to question his moral character and real record. For those who are willing to question the 'official' story of St. Martin, go to http://www.lewrockwell.com and http://www.renewamerica.com and put Martin Luther King into the search engines. Also, procure this book from either a library loan or a bookseller like Amazon. "House Divided" by Lionel Lokos. Lokos draws a picture of King that shows him to be nothing more than a race hustler, a provoker of violence through so called non violent demonstrations, and a radical leftist who was surrounded by communists. With leaders like this, who needs the KKK as an enemy?
Yep, like Ralph says, "that is the true legacy of civil rights."