Saturday, June 19, 2010

Fear and Loathing in Trans-Tea-Party-Mania

Here's an email I received recently from a reader (a friend with history and theology degrees from a grad school in Wisconsin). Whether you agree with the ideas or not, you've got to love these raw, free-flowing, shoot-from-the hip reflections. This one is on politics, sparked by a banal interview with Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) entitled "Sen. Nelson: Obama May Not Have Constitutional Authority, But He Has Moral Authority" (Breitbart.tv, June 18, 2010). Commenting on the interview, our reader writes:
The very real and immediate dangerous sense of moral v. legitimate authority.

Tea Parties vary from region to region. I'm not a member of any of the Parties, and can relate to some local SC groups that espouse standing by the constitution, but there are revisionists out there. Perhaps even in Nebraska, Nelson being less than a footnote trying to cash in on those members. This was a political move, one of emotion, not a statement of authority alone (as a senator).

The greater debate and even real fight remains in what right v. what is right. These principles can merge and fade from each other depending on emotion, philosophic bearings, theological bearings. What we witness is the early percolation of, God forbid, a civil war--YES being demonstrated between the Tea Partiers. The extreme Left (not Partiers) are perpetual commies and anarchists. They will be of no account during such a fight, but are a threat as people become weakened. They enjoy filling easy gaps and will impose their will when people are certainly (not probably) weak. Note and brief aside: Have you wondered why Obama Inc., will not make serious effort to save the Gulf from as much disaster as possible? Because it is not in their interest to. They want the citizens to be reduced to not demands but begging the government to save the area and thus themselves. They await a populace ready for slavery.

And so Nelson stands in emotive qualities, desperate to be in collusion with a philosophically oriented group(s). How can we know? As the saying goes, "How does one know a politician is lying?"--"His lips are moving". He's a desperate man trying to be needed by a constituency. He is on the verge of being completely irrelevant or being a fellow apparatchik of Obama's Amerika. The die is cast.

As for the Tea Parties, their variation divides them but also identifies them as societal phenomena that appear to be at least philosophically-based. They are not and cannot stand as one. They are philosophically moved by regional needs followed by, sometimes closely, emotional impulse. Many are conservative or even Republican. They are the groups bent on constitutionalism. The tenet here is every man--more American philosophy of humanity. Many others are liberal in the 19th century sense (as my former political science professor would call it). They are more readily identified with the examples given in the article posted on your blog. They seek to stand up for the little guy, whether infant or retiree. The tenet here is all men--more Franco-European philosophy of humanity.

And so, will the Constitution stand? What will survive--every man OR all men? What will overcome--in what right OR what is right?
Then, as an addendum:
By the way, the two spectra of the Tea Parties are NOT ever completely reconcilable. Their sense of democracy/representative republic/human rights are incompatible. It is exactly---NOT IN PART--but exactly (okay minus the riding bootsies) the 19th century difference between the understanding of freedom in the US as opposed to the varying interpretations in Europe. See Theodore Roosevelt's concepts on this. He has essays on what it is to be a man, good citizenship, good living--these fall line for line in with American values. The European values are found from French revolutionaries to Marx. They ultimately exclude the value of the individual--some in very short order.
[Hat tip to S.K.]

5 comments:

Ralph Roister-Doister said...

I don't have any faith in Tea Party movements. The political right has not changed. These people didn't suddenly drop out of the sky the day after President Black Jesus' inauguration. They're the same bunch as before, with the same problematic and even schizoid profiles.

(1) Neo-con empire builders
(2) libertarians
(3) corporation leg humpers
(4) Wall Street bankmasters of the universe
(5) social issue conservatives, aka the Religious Right, including not only Catholics, but Bible-thumping froth-spewers of the "Separated Brethren" stripe, with their ever-more whacked out interpretations of scripture
(6) the republican establishment, the only group that know how to play the game

No matter what happens, no matter how many portly buffoons in colonial American attire parade across the television screen, the next republican candidate will be a member of group (6). My guess is that it will be Mitt Romney, of whom GHWB once said "I like the cut of his jib." Of course, if Jeb decides he wants to be president after all, daddy might revise his opinion.

And if the establishment should somehow fail, who would the Tea Party insurgents push forward? Oh Lord, please -- not HER!!!!!

Lutheran said...

Agreed on these fine foundational, pin-wearing members, but--in what category are the thousands to millions of last minute sign-ons? Or are they to be listed as chattel or dispensable assets in case things should get unnecessarily uncivil or rough?

John Lamont said...

The 'American values' vs. 'European values' are in fact two takes on the same wrong basic notion, that of subjective rights; the correct, Thomist notion is that of objective right. This was all set out by the great French Catholic thinker Michel Villey - I described his views and defended them in a recent Thomist article, 'Conscience, Freedom Rights: Idols of the Enlightenment Religion'. Villey needs to be translated into English, I wish I knew how this could be done.

Pertinacious Papist said...

John L.,

Thanks for the comment, as well as for the bibliographical reference. I look forward to the read, as always. Cheers, P.B.

Lutheran said...

"The 'American values' vs. 'European values' are in fact two takes on the same wrong basic notion, that of subjective rights"

Stepping aside from any Tea Party--

But the reality is that human decision is based on free will. Expand upon that. ALL national values (which is actually discussed between American v. European constructs) are certainly influenced by societal prejudices.

And so, what will survive in the struggle between even the civil constructs of the West: Understanding of clear rights to individuals as determined by God or understanding of clear rights to men (with any individuals as part of such a collective) in also accepting that such rights come from the people, the masses, so to speak.

These are different concepts. They have different roots. One is not at heart subjective. It is faith-based in the Word of God as prime directive. It puts a faith in the grace of the Lord and assumes that God certainly does lead His people through history. The other marks men as god, as the word of the spirit of mankind.

The first is actually, pre-Enlightenment. The second is embedded in it.