tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.comments2024-01-29T08:39:40.754-05:00Musings of a Pertinacious PapistUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9593125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-20858187577815828412018-03-02T07:15:16.826-05:002018-03-02T07:15:16.826-05:00I'm not the least bit surprised. This is a pa...I'm not the least bit surprised. This is a pattern I see everywhere. The only thing I find surprising is that the 60s generation is even surprised.Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-51376577216737472622017-03-13T23:23:44.159-04:002017-03-13T23:23:44.159-04:00Martin Mosebach is not a philosopher or theologian...Martin Mosebach is not a philosopher or theologian, but an artist and cultural critic. Yet he has more insights than 95% of philosophers and theologians when it comes to understanding what went wrong with the Church after Vatican II and how this is evidenced in a liturgy that has gone off the rails. Mosebach is a treasure! Thanks for posting this!Charlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-36777507354311640262017-01-16T21:59:07.265-05:002017-01-16T21:59:07.265-05:00How many times have I implored, "Could somebo...How many times have I implored, "Could <b>somebody</b> explain to me why <b>anybody</b> thinks DeLubac is so significant?"<br /><br />But DeLubac is so widely esteemed my query always meets with... well, if not disdain, than with complete avoidance. Did someone make a noise?<br /><br />Enter Jeff Mirus. I have to say, here is someone who by his attention silently seems to give some credibility to my query. There Vatican II guys, just what was/is the deal...?<br /><br />Not sure he makes much headway, but at least he tries!Guy Noir - Private Eyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-68360773590287831012016-11-22T06:54:09.687-05:002016-11-22T06:54:09.687-05:00This was definitely a happy reminder. God is good!...This was definitely a happy reminder. God is good!Meemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16139798068507907610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-21005716198672290062016-11-21T12:07:43.434-05:002016-11-21T12:07:43.434-05:00The excision of the Leonine Prayers was a tragedy!...The excision of the Leonine Prayers was a tragedy!Sixupmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12486627001579821658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-32864414224492226342016-11-21T10:03:28.324-05:002016-11-21T10:03:28.324-05:00I have never ceased saying the prayers after Mass,...I have never ceased saying the prayers after Mass, however I have changed the intention. For years, the depth and the diversity of the anti-life mind set in the US has left me bewildered as to how to direct my intention. I have settled on a positive thought instead of directly asking God to end our disgrace. I now pray, "For generous family life", that is, overcoming evil with an abundance of good. On our present course, our future as a Nation is essentially oblivion. The entire world suffers with the same gross rejection of God's intention for human life. World Population forecasts, even by the UN, which rejects life so notoriously, show a collapse of almost unbelievable proportions beginning in mid century. The future of human life will depend on those who cooperate with God's design and have children. At 88, God has blessed me with nearly 50 progeny so far. Their future will not be easy, but life is what God wants. I hope I can pray for them from Heaven of Purgatory. Humanly speaking, the future belongs to he fertile. Bernard M. Collinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12047076726897667566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-54382188985790709202016-11-19T08:50:57.363-05:002016-11-19T08:50:57.363-05:00I could not find Bai's example simply followin...I could not find Bai's example simply following her link. I did not do an in depth search, but this should be straight forward, not needing to put a PhD effort to find it.<br /><br />Bai, post your bit here, please.. or you have wasted time, at least to me.<br /><br /><br />KarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-64473989279832134712016-11-16T18:41:09.600-05:002016-11-16T18:41:09.600-05:00Long, well thought out, but too squeamish by half....Long, well thought out, but too squeamish by half. I found myself rolling my eyes at her studied pose of solemn fastidiousness at several points.<br /><br />I think the bottom line is that this essay in self-justification is the product of a generally clear thinking individual trapped in the repressively totalitarian hothouse environment of American academe. I know that PP will immediately jump to the defense of his colleagues, but I have spent years of my own in such an environment, and I know full well how subtly the screws are turned, especially in these days of intolerant tolerance and uniform diversity. The fact that it is a specifically Catholic environment matters not a whit. Forgive me the pun, but Janet Smith's article is an apologia pro vota sua, whose audience is her colleagues and her social circles. The text may be a well-reasoned explanation of her decision to vote for an American populist; the sub text is a sad plea to her erstwhile friends not to marginalize her.<br /><br />Is that too harsh? Perhaps, but that is what I get out of it. When Hillary made her celebrated remark about the "basket of deplorables," it is pretty clear that Janet smarted a bit: she is obviously moved to demonstrate that such phobias and "isms" do not darken HER door. I, on the other hand, had a "Les Deplorables" <br />t-shirt made, which I wore regularly around my university town, until the weather turned cold. My point is that Janet accepts the legitimacy of Hillary's categories, and the toxic environment in which she exists probably has a lot to do with it. <br /><br />Oh well, I suppose if one chooses to live in an intellectual Chernobyl, one must expect thought processes defaced by an ulcer here, a metastasis there . . . . All in all she is holding up as well as one might reasonably expect.<br /><br />BTW, anyone interested in a blistering satire on university mores should check out Joyce Carol Oates' "The Hungry Ghosts." Even the title is hilariously appropriate, and the stories are a series of paper cuts to the carotid.<br /><br /> le bourgeois gentilhommenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-70030232312843497432016-11-16T16:53:05.854-05:002016-11-16T16:53:05.854-05:00Remember you and yours during every intention pray...Remember you and yours during every intention prayed prior to mass.<br /><br />Male sure you take the time to drink some quality cabernet and listen to classical musicMick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-65736739483210049812016-11-16T14:46:24.218-05:002016-11-16T14:46:24.218-05:00Così, per il cardinale Burke Consiglio Vaticano II...<br />Così, per il cardinale Burke Consiglio Vaticano II sarebbe anche non essere magisteriale?<br /><br /><br /> My position is that Amoris Laetitia is not Magisterial because it contains serious ambiguities that confuse people and can lead them into error and grave sin. A document with these defects cannot be part of the Church’s perennial teaching. Because that is the case, the Church needs absolute clarity regarding what Pope Francis is teaching and encouraging.<br />INTERVIEW with Card. Burke about their plea to Pope Francis “Seeking Clarity”<br />http://wdtprs.com/blog/2016/11/interview-with-card-burke-about-their-plea-to-pope-francis-seeking-clarity/<br /> <br />Yes there is error in Amoris Laetitia however Vatican Council II also has error and so could not be considered magisterial.There is an objective error in Vatican Council II and this cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit.<br />Amoris Laetitia rejects traditional moral theology with subjectivism. It assumes what is subjectively known only to God is also known to man. It assumes for example, that we can judge when a couple in objective mortal sin is not in mortal sin. So the Eucharist could be given to them. It rejects Veritatis Splendor and Catholic morality as was taught by Pope John Paul and previous popes, based on the Bible.<br /> <br />Similarly the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston also has rejected traditional salvation theology with subjectivismand this error has been placed in Vatican Council II.The Letter 1949 in principle accepted that hypothetical cases of the baptism of desire etc were objectively visible in the present times. Then with this irrational premise it concluded that there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Vatican Council II also suggests in principle that hypothetical cases are a rupture with Tradition, in particular the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the Syllabus of Errors.So not only the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16, AG 7, LG 14) refer to exceptions to EENS but also ' being saved in imperfect communion with the Church (UR 3), seeds of the Word(AG 11), 'good and holy things in other religions'(NA 2),'elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8),known cases of salvation outside the visible body of the Church with the 'subsistit it' new theology(LG 8) etc.<br />This is bad philosophy. It has mixed up with is invisible as being visible, what is subjective as being defacto known, what is hypothetical as being objectively seen.<br />This is a factual and objective error in Vatican Council II with reference to the dogma EENS.<br />We cannot see people who are now saved in Heaven with the baptism of desire etc. So why are they mentioned with reference to EENS? I accept them as hypothetical cases.So there is a choice.Vatican Council II chose the irrtional option.<br />With bad philosophy bad theology was created and accepted by the Council Fathers.The magisteriuam had already not corrected the error in the 1949 Letter.The Archbishop of Boston did not support Fr.Leonard Feeney. He was saying there are no known cases of the baptism of desire etc and so there could not be salvation outside the Church.<br />Some of the Church Fathers at Vatican Council II accepted this error and inserted it in the text since they believed that the baptism of desire etc referred to known cases in the present times. Cardinal Richard Cushing was active at Vatican Council II and had still not lifted the excommunication of Fr. Leonard Feeney.<br />This is all an objective error.It cannot be the work of the Holy Spirit. This is definitely not magisterial since it contradicts the centuries old interpretation of the dogma EENS by the past magisterium.It also does all this with the use of an irrational premise to create a non traditional conclusion.This new theology is based on an irrational premise.<br />So for Cardinal Burke Vatican Council II would also not be magisterial ?<br />Catholic Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06025127342963192930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-47136065540511979472016-11-15T17:33:26.373-05:002016-11-15T17:33:26.373-05:00Helterskelter I is absolutely right. The Church o...Helterskelter I is absolutely right. The Church of V2 and the anti-liturgy bursting from its loins in full ululation are the ordinary. The Roman Catholic Church of the Saints is indeed extraordinary, and the consecrated thugs of the Church of V2 are dedicated to its suppression. The isolation of Summorum Pontificum is the first step toward its abduction, which is being planned as we live and breathe, and will come to pass not too long after Benedict Emeritus has himself passed. All that will remain of Der Panzerkardinal at that point will be his little booklets of kooky theology, a forlorn and forgettable legacy indeed.<br /> <br />le bourgeois gentilhommenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-55854847068373747582016-11-14T22:20:28.678-05:002016-11-14T22:20:28.678-05:00'Snowflake' ... !!!'Snowflake' ... !!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-50570846179012280712016-11-14T13:15:19.757-05:002016-11-14T13:15:19.757-05:00Wouldn't it be great if the Special Snowflake ...Wouldn't it be great if the Special Snowflake of The Holy See was assigned to write a Traditional explication of this Psalm as penance for his progressive praxis?<br /><br />He could cite St. Robert Bellarmine's "Commentary on the Book of Psalms" and note (p.348) <i>...they were, certainly, acts of justice, in regard to the wicked, who were stricken and slain: but in respect's to God's people, they were acts of mercy.<b> God sometimes shows his mercy even to the wicked, by shortening their time in this world, thus preventing them of an accumulation of sin, and the treasuring up, in consequence, of a greater amount of punishment "on the day of anger and the just judgment of God"</b> </i><br /><br />But that would be an impossible task because The Pietyphobic Pope does not appear to believe in the Catholic Faith<br /><br /> The Special Snowflake of The Holy See is always trying to cleave Christ, cutting Him into two attributes (almost two persons) setting Him against Himself and setting His mercy against His justice in a crude, nearly materialistic, way as though Jesus Christ can be materialistically/functionally severed his from His justice so only Mercy remains.<br /><br />Jesus is Law and Love and He can not be separated to be crammed into anyone's agenda any more than His Hypostatic union can ever be dissolved or separated and, If we love Him, He says we must keep His commands.<br /><br />We can not ditch our first wife, get hitched to some other babe and say that is a blessed relationship but that is what The Special Snowflake is claiming isn't he?<br /><br />O, and he is also claiming that most marriages are not marriages whereas adulterers in a second marriage have a real marriage.<br /><br />Frankly, that is simply Satanic and The Special Snowflake of the Holy See has to ask his own self if he can dodge the Justice of God and receive aught but His mercy.<br /><br />He can't because Jesus is not at war with himself but the Special Snowflake of the Holy See is at war with Jesus which ain't too bright, especially considering he is His vicar.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-71244518690997096072016-11-14T11:28:12.622-05:002016-11-14T11:28:12.622-05:00Tobias may have a large piece of your answer. Cha...Tobias may have a large piece of your answer. Chapter 1 praises him and includes this: " And because he was mindful of the Lord with all his heart, God gave him favour in the sight of Salmanasar the king." Yet Tobias prays in chapter 3 in such-wise that it seems he is guilty of sins at the subliminal level wherein a psalm prays,<br />" cleanse me from my hidden sins". In any event, it is in Tobias in the Duoay Rheims<br />that a remarkable concept is stated in the trifold concept of mercy, truth, judgement below as happening in all moments from God..<br /><br />3-1 Then Tobias sighed, and began to pray with tears, [2] Saying: Thou art just, O Lord, and all thy judgments are just, and all thy ways mercy, and truth, and judgment: [3] And now, O Lord, think of me, and take not revenge of my sins, neither remember my offenses, nor those of my parents. [4] For we have not obeyed thy commandments...<br /><br />In chapter 2 he is blinded by swallow dung falling in his eyes but the verses clearly have him innocent and compare him to Job. Is there punishment for the innocent because only Mary was absent the hidden sins of the psalm mentioned above and of venial sin. Complex indeed. If you are in a car crash, is it mercy and the truth of what must happen but also judgement on your venial and hidden sins?...despite your being innocent of mortal sin and zealous like Tobias in works?bill bannonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09737277581167437670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-33800835653130130372016-11-13T18:16:09.741-05:002016-11-13T18:16:09.741-05:00Thank you, Lionel. I'll have more time after ...Thank you, Lionel. I'll have more time after the end of the year. Best wishes, PBPertinacious Papisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03213911570586726075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-83724536041625978762016-11-12T21:23:52.757-05:002016-11-12T21:23:52.757-05:00I dunno. This seems like a tempest in a teapot if ...I dunno. This seems like a tempest in a teapot if the last two popes' teachings are to be believed. Did is literally doing backflips to woo us, and I can't imagine he is going to be hard ass towards well-meaning people, you know? See this:<br /><br />http://theratzingerforum.yuku.com/topic/2227/Writings-Interviews-Speeches-Joseph-Ratzinger-Benedict?page=2#.WCfMGHeZPoc<br /><br />There is no need of justification before God, but instead a head of God to justify the hardships of life to us. Or something like that. Likewise, the "wrath of God" is really just our rebellion, not his anger... Am I tracking correctly, because this seems like an inversion as much s a development of doctrine. Our forefather had it right but also all wrong... Suddenly I get Francis: the whole program if these popes is to get us to not reject our orthodoxy but to update it on our terms. I wonder if they think of us as well-meaning "clingers"?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-12047877817307730912016-11-12T17:00:31.317-05:002016-11-12T17:00:31.317-05:00As Gomer says, "Suprise, Suprise, Suprise!&qu...As Gomer says, "Suprise, Suprise, Suprise!"<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TnkJ8_BmSI<br /><br />LMBO<br /><br />KarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-56585775574549776502016-11-12T16:58:02.342-05:002016-11-12T16:58:02.342-05:00ABS,
No, Jorge worships Lucifer in his heart of h...ABS,<br /><br />No, Jorge worships Lucifer in his heart of hearts!<br /><br /><br />KarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-20069923493956613372016-11-12T14:54:19.731-05:002016-11-12T14:54:19.731-05:00Done!Done!Catholic Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06025127342963192930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-3707890276670502342016-11-12T09:46:37.967-05:002016-11-12T09:46:37.967-05:00Young Latin Mass goers are repressed, rigid? Exact... <br />Young Latin Mass goers are repressed, rigid? Exact same descrip. pagans across the planet make of members of vital campus Christian ministries. People are struggling to be reverent and find something to believe in -- other than 'Serendipty,' social justice, accompaniment, and felt banners -- and not just get drunk or have safe, nonjudgmental sex at World Youth Day, and this is the support they get from the Holy Father? <br /><br />Even in context, this one is a condescending psychoanalysis that makes Francis sound more like the liberal college professors who try to erode the beliefs of kids from good homes than it does like any sort of self-aware Pope. And the clincher is it's delivered in yet another "interview" where its very inclusion is unnecessary, contrived, and is couched in the same sort of infuriating mutual agreement smugness on display in the US media. When JPII was pope Ignatius Press produced charming book of his quotes entitled "We're own a Mission from God." Francis seems like he is on a mission too. And if I wasn't done with this guy before, I am now. #unfortunatelymypope Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-17814696505841769532016-11-12T08:34:01.735-05:002016-11-12T08:34:01.735-05:00What can one say about a Church that used to detes...What can one say about a Church that used to detest divorce and remarriage but now lovingly embraces, if not encourages, it?<br /><br />Well, ABS can say it is an absolute mockery of a monarchial structure that suffers the devil in its midst so that the world may love it and praise its<i> mercy.</i><br /><br />Who was it said there could be no concord between Christ and Belial? (2 Corinth)<br /><br />Well, what'n'hell did that old timer know?<br /><br />Besides, dogma evolves, doesn't it?<br /><br />This is the mercy of modern times and the Special Snowflake of The Holy See is courting the devil.Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-1976840042792724892016-11-11T18:12:55.429-05:002016-11-11T18:12:55.429-05:00Mr. Lionel,
Kindly remove your post on your own b...Mr. Lionel,<br /><br />Kindly remove your post on your own blog referencing me. The reason you haven't any answer from me is because I haven't had the time to even consider what you're asking. No evasion. Just not any time.<br /><br />That's the reason I haven't been blogging much. I mean no discourtesy, but please don't assume that my silence betokens some sort of position-taking. It doesn't. I probably won't have time until the New Year.<br /><br />Thanks, PB<br /><br />Pertinacious Papisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03213911570586726075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-61298431246276057852016-11-09T13:18:28.402-05:002016-11-09T13:18:28.402-05:00Let's face it, Mick, it is the pestilential &q... Let's face it, Mick, it is the pestilential "Spirit of V2" that is guiding him. Wandell not Wandellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-48105095556514540882016-11-09T04:18:49.117-05:002016-11-09T04:18:49.117-05:00
November 7, 2016
No comment from Prof. Phillip B...<br />November 7, 2016<br /><br />No comment from Prof. Phillip Blosser <br />http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/11/no-comment-from-prof-phillip-blosser.htmlCatholic Missionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06025127342963192930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-69320051916376176862016-11-08T18:35:13.192-05:002016-11-08T18:35:13.192-05:00'Special Snowflake'! LOLROF'Special Snowflake'! LOLROFDark Horsenoreply@blogger.com