tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post8848152570057550853..comments2024-03-28T16:16:51.062-04:00Comments on Musings of a Pertinacious Papist: "We didn’t get the shout-out, but we were very, very close..."Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-65730885400372696752015-02-24T20:49:00.415-05:002015-02-24T20:49:00.415-05:00THIS is what the problem is here, and this is why ...THIS is what the problem is here, and this is why Papa Francis, for all his smiling, is dead wrong in his "If someone is gay..." quote. Direct answers to the common nonsense at hand. Leaders who don't get this are problematic leaders at best. Now let;s get ready for the big St.Pat's ay Parade...<br /><br />http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/gay-just-another-adjective<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-81392089663835040992015-02-21T00:20:21.652-05:002015-02-21T00:20:21.652-05:00"We cannot insist only on issues related to a... "We cannot insist only on issues related to abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods. This is not possible. I have not spoken much about these things, and I was reprimanded for that. But when we speak about these issues, we have to talk about them in a context. The teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear and I am a son of the church, but it is not necessary to talk about these issues all the time."<br /><br />And what is the "context" now?<br /><br />By tubthumping these issues all of a sudden Francis wants to reassure the ruminants of the Catholic pasture that he is not the ideologue pushing South American liberation theology that he in fact is.<br /><br />A few headlines in which liberals profess to be shocked and dismayed by his latest statements can only help his case with the recalcitrant bishops of last year's synod, a handful of timid souls whose support he needs to establish the two-thirds majority required to control the outcome. I would expect that these men are knock-kneed with fright to find themselves on the outs with Papa because of events at the synod. These Gilbert & Sullivan sons of the Church only want to get out of the cold and back into the barn where Papa keeps them safe and warm.<br /> <br />It is politics. It is Lyndon Johnson controlling the senate by a mixture of bluffing, bribing and bullying. It is George H W Bush discovering a long-suppressed appetite for pork rinds while on the red state campaign trail in 1992. Ralph Roister-Doisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-53632437012424103102015-02-20T22:48:46.088-05:002015-02-20T22:48:46.088-05:00This says it well:
http://www.onepeterfive.com/en...This says it well:<br /><br />http://www.onepeterfive.com/encyclical-guesstures-making-sense-pope-franciss-pastoral-aims/<br /><br />JFMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05496819581817926605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-67405184064446515072015-02-20T17:42:31.485-05:002015-02-20T17:42:31.485-05:00@George
I definitely see evil in the Church but m...@George<br /><br />I definitely see evil in the Church but maybe I'd see more if I didn't see so much crying wolf.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-41459501732224506392015-02-20T15:34:39.737-05:002015-02-20T15:34:39.737-05:00It appears that someone is being disingenuous here...It appears that someone is being disingenuous here, and it seems more likely to me that the LGBT reps would paint themselves as enjoying VIP privileges than unnamed "sources" in the Vatican and the Prefecture for the Pontifical Household.<br /><br />Having said that, I do remember from those occasions at which I have been at these General Audiences that those in the front row or two on either side of the hall are given chances to not only shake hands and greet the Holy Father, but sometimes to receive a blessing from him. Sometimes these include people in wheelchairs. Sometimes various dignitaries. Once a Protestant Argentine colleague of mine from Lenoir-Rhyne University.<br /><br />The rest of those present have no such opportunities. At best, those along the center aisle may have a change, if they get lucky, to shake the hand of the pope or touch him as he passes by waiving at the pilgrims.<br /><br />As I say, I'm incline to think the LGBT reps are posers here. At the same time, however, we would be disingenuous ourselves not to acknowledge that the Vatican has its own record of individuals (usually of a "liberal" mien) who have been involved media manipulation and spin. A certain Vatican secretary of state comes to mind.Pertinacious Papisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03213911570586726075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-56421804631473826752015-02-20T12:54:20.191-05:002015-02-20T12:54:20.191-05:00I'm thinking that the problem is that Francis ...I'm thinking that the problem is that Francis and his advisors blow hot and cold. Kasper sounds like a "son of the church" when he's writing his book on <i>Mercy</i> and like a modernist heretic when he's interviewed in Boston. Francis sounds like a "son of the church" when he's saying the things BenY links here, but looks like a modernist-appeasing crypto liberal when he appoints approves the mid-term report authored by Bruno Forte, appoints numerous liberals to key positions, and tells the world that the homosexual and re-married couples issues voted down at the 2014 synod are "still on the table."<br /><br />I'm also thinking that the problem with BenY's "see no evil" position, typical of contemporary right-wing papalotrists is that they have no credibility by comes off looking like the crowd accompanying the naked emperor and pretending he's still wearing his new clothes.Georgenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-46693979167879506052015-02-20T12:49:11.954-05:002015-02-20T12:49:11.954-05:00Last one.
VIP treatment for LGBT group at the Va...Last one.<br /><br /><br /><b>VIP treatment for LGBT group at the Vatican? Not really.</b><br /><br /><br />http://www.catholicworldreport.com/NewsBriefs/Default.aspx?rssGuid=vip-treatment-for-lgbt-group-at-the-vatican-not-really-72364/<br /><br /><br />I'm done. This dead horse is beaten and made into dog food.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-85548875123712912722015-02-20T11:59:59.009-05:002015-02-20T11:59:59.009-05:00I'm thinking of having a priest-hole construct...I'm thinking of having a priest-hole constructed in our house.Tamsinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01636532242553200576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-13491815443570508422015-02-20T09:00:48.911-05:002015-02-20T09:00:48.911-05:00Whittaker Chambers suffered a bout of depression a...Whittaker Chambers suffered a bout of depression after repudiating Communism for in doing so he thought he had chosen the losing side.<br /><br />There are not a few of us old timers who identify with Chambers for we have backed the Church-contra-sodomy side.<br /><br />Who's next for the front row, Bob Uecker or Frances Kissling?Mick Jagger Gathers No Mosquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12879499915093940176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-7159427462952515692015-02-19T23:15:07.135-05:002015-02-19T23:15:07.135-05:00Doc I am having trouble seeing what the problem is...Doc I am having trouble seeing what the problem is here?<br /><br /><br /><b>Pope, in Philippines, says same-sex marriage threatens family</b><br /><br />http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1500200.htm<br /><br /><br /><b>Pope Francis criticizes gay marriage, backs ban on contraception.</b><br /><br />http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/01/16/pope-francis-criticizes-gay-marriage-backs-contraception-ban/<br /><br /><b>Pope Francis Shocks Liberals on Same-Sex “Marriage”</b><br /><br /><br />http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/pope-francis-prepares-shock-liberals-sex-marriage<br /><br /><br /><b>Is Pope Francis Duping Liberals on Marriage?</b><br /><br />http://www.crisismagazine.com/2014/pope-francis-duping-liberals-marriage<br /><br />Off the top of my head I read somewhere in either breitbart or was it Newsmax? that one gay activist said he was very disappointed in the Pope.<br /><br />Fr. Z I know has been crowing about it & it warms my heart to see him so happy.<br /><br />If all the active and activist gays can hope to get from the Vatican is VIP seating at a Papal Homily I don't see why i should be worried about that?<br /><br />There are a host of other things to be more worried about.<br /><br /><br />Cheers.Son of Ya'Kovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05645132954231868592noreply@blogger.com