tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post7768547867204327753..comments2024-01-29T08:39:40.754-05:00Comments on Musings of a Pertinacious Papist: Romano Guardini on the Last JudgmentUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-7945587823584167442014-07-07T15:50:22.688-04:002014-07-07T15:50:22.688-04:00Guardini's "The Lord" remains a favo...Guardini's "The Lord" remains a favorite of mine, and several other pieces have been of personal help. But I laughed out lout at "The errors of Germany," since I have thought the same myself countless times.<br /><br />As for "Versus populum, chairs in circle," and the like, I think there was a real struggle early in the 1900s to break away from the inevitable dead ritualism that can't help but rise and fall around orthodoxy in a successful Church culture. Guardini and others to my mind found their original impetus there. The later wild windows that blew through open windows... that is another story entirely in my book.<br /><br />But a successful theological and liturgical orthodoxy does bring with some inevitable triumphalism and comfortableness that "we're Catholic, so we're OK, period." And salvation by osmosis is risky belief. Although I am by no means a big George Weigel fan [I returned mhy own copy of E.C.!} I think that is what he senses as well in this linked discussion, in which I find some merit:<br /><br />http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2014/05/evangelicals-catholics-and-togetherness<br /> JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06684142528414196410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-90773802203289233932014-07-05T23:34:00.409-04:002014-07-05T23:34:00.409-04:00Good point, NC. I've often wondered about the...Good point, NC. I've often wondered about the question you put at issue: how much time should we spend looking for the good fruit on a tree that also produces some very bad apples?<br /><br />Do you use the early Schillebeeckx work on ecclesiology in as a text in your class because it makes some very good points, or do you discard it altogether as water from a poisoned well?<br /><br />I haven't spent much time on Guardini or on many of the Nouvelles. A little on Henri de Lubac, perhaps. I prefer the classics. St. Thomas. Even Garrigou-Lagrange.Pertinacious Papisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03213911570586726075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-1437398314785193402014-07-05T22:25:00.088-04:002014-07-05T22:25:00.088-04:00I used to love Guardini -- until the day, around t...I used to love Guardini -- until the day, around the time of my conversion, where I first read reports of his often-repeated "new-style" masses for students still in the 1920s/30s in Berlin. Versus populum, chairs in circle, etc, etc.<br /><br />Sorry, I can't take that. The errors of Germany, why didn't an Apparition warn us about those !?...New Catholicnoreply@blogger.com