tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post6126068634765282906..comments2024-01-29T08:39:40.754-05:00Comments on Musings of a Pertinacious Papist: The totalitarian repressiveness of Vatican II's "true reform" as advanced by Massimo FaggioliUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-59990641592667117362013-04-27T09:03:30.343-04:002013-04-27T09:03:30.343-04:00(ctd)
(6) In this clash those with lateblooming ...(ctd)<br /><br />(6) In this clash those with lateblooming misgivings were at a disadvantage. On the one hand, they were alarmed by what they saw; on the other, they were constitutionally unable or unwilling to admit that these alarming developments grew out of the nouvelle "reform" program they themselves had pushed forward at the council, and out of the stratagem they themselves had concocted, to reveal it only after the council had ended. So they invented an alternate version of events: the doppelganger hermeneutics of "tradition" and of "rupture." The hermeneutic of tradition became, to these unhappy reformers, the only true hermeneutic: the Bologna hermeneutic (which was in truth once the common understanding of all council insurgents), was now branded by those with a newfound sense of moderation, as a hermeneutic of rupture, a false hermeneutic which had never been in the minds of any of the council fathers. <br /><br />(7) In this clash of hermeneutics we see clearly the present clash between extreme nouvelles and more moderate nouvelles, who have also acquired the somewhat misleading designations "conservatives" and "neo-Caths." It is significant that in this interpretion the nouvelles (reminiscent of the Jacobins and Girondists of the French Revolution) have cast themselves on both sides of the coin. Conservative or liberal, moderate or modernist, both sides are nouvelles whose power originates in the success of the insurgency at the second Vatican council. <br /><br />(8) This remarkable pheonomenon also begs the question: where did all of the people who opposed nouvelle theology and nouvelle programs of "reform" go to? Whither the constituency of Pius XII, Cdl Ottaviano, and Garrigou Lagrange, among many others? There are many answers to this question: many sit in their pews in silent disgust at the new Church-without-bastions; many have achieved an Alzheimerian level of forgetfulness, and accept the nouvelle Church with bemused incomprehension; many have thrown up their hands and headed for one of the protestant evangelical cow palaces (no one is better than the protestants when it comes to fast food spirituality, and if the new, improved Catholic Church under the new management of Nouvelle Inc. now panders to the same appetites, why not forget it and go to the best?); many have joined the Church of the NFL; a tiny faction has followed the SSPX. For those not enthralled with the Bolognian or Ratzingerian version of events, the choices are grim. The Roman Catholic Church for them has simply -- poof! -- vanished!<br /><br />Young seminarians kept like mushrooms in the dark cellars of bad nouvelle formation ought to lay a few hands, or whatever kicky thingees you gents do these days, to offer a prayer for the souls of those faithful Catholics who woke up one morning and found themselves depants-ed and wedgied by the leaders of their own Church.Ralph Roister-Doisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-76623007918683228252013-04-27T08:52:38.955-04:002013-04-27T08:52:38.955-04:00(1) The texts were written in a diplomatic style ...(1) The texts were written in a diplomatic style which was meant to be "inclusive" -- that is, to appear to mean as many different things to as many different people as possible.<br /><br />(2) The writing of the texts was supervised and controlled by the same people who announced themselves as awash in a spirit of ideological commitment. They were also the very same people who would be in a position to implement those texts. It would be at the point of implementation, not at the point of publication, that the meaning of those carefully ambiguous texts would become clear. To put it briefly, the texts themselves were deliberately designed to be a pig in a poke.<br /><br />(3) The Bologna "school" is indeed correct in asserting that there was at V2 an event which they describe as epiphanal, and which some later interpreters (perhaps in the thrall of a penitential epiphany of their own) called a "rupture." I would call the event an insurgency -- and a stunningly successful one at that. <br /><br />(4) With the architects of the insurgency escounced throughout the Church, one scandalous "reform" after another erupted during the period of implementation, for which the euphemism "the spirit of Vatican II" was concocted. <br /><br />(5) As the "spirit" unrolled like a red carpet in the decades following the council, some of the architects of the implementation, such as Joseph Ratzinger, grew restive. They felt that the nouvelle and modernist spirit they had initiated at V2 had gotten out of control. They began, in one way or another, to try to apply the brakes. In doing so they clashed with others, who were enthusiastic to see the implementation continue at full speed.<br /><br />(ctd)Ralph Roister-Doisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6312447.post-82239212148437223122013-04-25T23:07:21.836-04:002013-04-25T23:07:21.836-04:00Reid deserves a medal. Scholarly, even-handed, and...Reid deserves a medal. Scholarly, even-handed, and wide-ranging. Who else could believably defend Vatican II in one breath, assert the unity of Isaiah in another, and then proceed to eulogize Garrigou-Lagrange and Benedict XVI all in one lifetime? Great review of a worrisome book. I hope you managed to CC Pope Francis!JMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06684142528414196410noreply@blogger.com